| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 14 2008 : 15:16:17
Sky are reporting now Shannon has been found alive. Her mother is on the way to the police station to confirm it. Shannons father has been told to keep his phone line open. |
| 25 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| oxymoran |
Posted - Apr 03 2008 : 01:17:51
well it looks like the findings of porn have put back any hope she may have of a quick meeting. Very sad. |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 31 2008 : 14:19:34
SHANNON Matthews' mum is planning a legal battle to see the daughter she STILL has not hugged—more than a fortnight after cops found her.
Anguished mother Karen's only contact has been ONE GLIMPSE of Shannon, who went missing 40 days ago, through frosted glass.
She's not even allowed to know WHERE her daughter is. It could be as far from their West Yorkshire home as Lancashire.
Now Karen is believed to be seeking legal help to challenge the separation — which it is feared could stretch to an agonising 42 WEEKS.
Desperate
The painful wait has made her and partner Craig Meehan doubt their hasty agreement to voluntarily place the nine-year-old in care.
One friend said: "Karen is getting desperate to see Shannon — and only seeing her through glass is heartbreaking for her.
"She knows there's an investigation to be carried out, but one option being considered is seeking legal help to get Shannon back."
A social services insider explained: "Parents are not told the fostering address to prevent them trying to reach their kids in these situations."
Detectives want to avoid Shannon's evidence being affected by her speaking to other people.
Due to the slow, intense questioning needed about her disappearance, Karen agreed to Shannon being "voluntarily accommodated" by Kirklees local authority.
Our source added: "Under the Children's Act, the parent has no right to access. If they try to remove their child, Kirklees can instantly go to court for a care order on Shannon.
"The voluntary arrangement can stay in place for 42 weeks before it is reviewed — or unless the police decide they have finished all their inquiries."
Gagged by the probe into the schoolgirl's alleged abduction, stepdad Craig, 22, spoke briefly of Karen's agony at being parted from her "little Princess".
At their home in Dewsbury Moor, he said: "She's in tears all the time, like any mother would be."
Computer programmer Michael Donovan, 39, faces trial in November charged with kidnapping Shannon and holding her captive in his flat for 24 days. He is Craig Meehan's uncle.
This was in the News Of The World
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| lincs |
Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 16:27:16
Thats what i thought why would a little girl want to be away from her mother, is it her step father she does not like or is it a mixture of everything, only time will tell. |
| Garfield |
Posted - Mar 28 2008 : 14:06:58
I wonder why Shannon wants to be in care |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 26 2008 : 08:55:26
Thanks for that lincs. |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 18:30:46
According to the police the uncle lied and said other members of the family were involved and named them. The police do believe that he acted alone. Read some thing about the people of Dewsbury want him locked up for the rest of his natural life Shannon is in care through her own choice. |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 25 2008 : 13:46:49
Are there any updates about this case? Over a week ago there was a suggestion during a Sky newspaper review that Shannons disappearance had been organised by the family who had got the idea from the McCann case and had hoped to make £1m. Since then I haven't seen anything. |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 13:12:36
If it is i wonder who really was involved |
| Garfield |
Posted - Mar 18 2008 : 00:42:54
I'm afraid that I am now thinking this was a scam. What a horrible thought. |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 17 2008 : 17:18:10
Maybe Oxy and mog are right and it has all been a scam. 
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| lincs |
Posted - Mar 17 2008 : 13:20:34
I bet there is alot more to come out yet. Did any one see the news the other night an ex commander of the police he did say people are going to be surprised with the out come of all this on why she was taken as it does not add up. Makes you think when they give statements out, could he already know. |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 17 2008 : 11:36:35
OMG she even looks like Charlotte Pennington without the berét !!!!!
Also, a very fit lady indeed if she walked 10 miles to Bradford and back again.
Don't you just love the News of the World. 
Edited to add that, according to Sky news, police are almost certain that Shannon "has not come to harm" during the missing 3 weeks. So, where does this leave Angry Sue ? Maybe it was something about her that caused her exs uncontrollable passion. Perhaps next weeks NOTW will have a story from one of the fathers of one of her children. |
| petefergie |
Posted - Mar 17 2008 : 10:51:00
Here's the beautiful, mean, angry Sue! |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 17 2008 : 08:52:24
Anybody seen a photo of Angry Sue? I wondered if she was another wannabee model like Nanny Pennington. |
| petefergie |
Posted - Mar 16 2008 : 19:24:52
We can assume "ANGRY SUE" can now afford a good holiday abroad this year and still have some (£) spare...
Compliments of NOTW |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 16 2008 : 11:36:37
I see it has already started all the dirt coming out. |
| oxymoran |
Posted - Mar 16 2008 : 02:12:51
Sounds like our perp is a real nasty piece of work...which begs the question why it took 24 days!
Guess which paper? NOTW
Shannon man's vile sex secrets
Ex-wife reveals how he tried to strangle and smother her
ANGRY SUE: When I heard Shannon had vanished I knew it could have been Mick
By Neville Thurlbeck
The ex-wife of Shannon Matthews' kidnap suspect has revealed he secretly fantasised about sex with children.
In an exclusive interview Sue Bird told how Mick Donovan's sick lust was sensationally exposed when horrified teachers found graphic sex notes he'd put in his own DAUGHTER'S lunch box.
He was then BARRED from seeing 12-year-old Jane and sister Mary, aged 10, but SNATCHED them from council care and hid away with them in Blackpool for three days.
READ: I TOLD COPS A WEEK AGO
Sue said: "On top of that he used to force me to dress up as a schoolgirl for sex. That's why none of this is a surprise to me.
"He's actually kidnapped before, just 18 months ago. This man is a real
MASKING THE FEAR: Smiling Sue and baby Mary
nasty piece of work."
In an exclusive interview, Sue relived her seven years of hell atthe hands of the man who was hauled from his Dewsbury flat on Friday after police smashed their way in. They found nine-year-old Shannon hidden in the drawer under a divan bed. As West Yorkshire police gently questioned the youngster about her 24-day nightmare, Sue broke down and revealed she always had doubts about loner Donovan as he:
SPANKED her in bed while fantasising about being a kinky father or headmaster.
TRIED to STRANGLE her during one bizarre romp.
THREATENED to cut her throat unless she walked ten miles to get him drugs.
ENJOYED beating her black and blue—especially in bed.
Sue, 37, said: "Mick was a walking, ticking time bomb.
"He's so horrible, something like this was bound to happen. If he could kidnap his own children, he could kidnap anyone.
"When I heard little Shannon had been taken I was sick to the pit of my stomach. And I knew in my heart that it could have been Mick."
Sue insists 39-year-old Donovan— uncle to Shannon's stepdad Craig Meehan—had an unhealthy interest in children right from the start of their relationship in 1990.
"When he made me dress like a schoolgirl he'd want me in knee-high white socks, flat shoes and a tight top," she said.
"I had to tie my hair up in plaits. And always no make-up, to complete the schoolgirl look.
FAMILY LINK: Donovan and nephew Craig, Shannon's stepdad
Knife
"If I was wearing make-up, he'd make me go and wash it off.
"His nickname for me was ‘Toots' and schoolgirl sex was always his fantasy. He'd often want it twice a day.
"He'd spank my bottom during sex, too. He loved being in control. He said he loved feeling like a ‘father or headmaster' in bed.
"I went along with it because he was very dominating and violent.
"Sometimes, his violence would spill over into our lovemaking. He was having sex with me once when for no reason, he started strangling me. I could feel his hands tightening around my neck, so I pushed him as hard as I could and he fell off the bed.
"I really thought I'd had it. But he just put on his dressing gown and walked out of the bedroom.
"After that I started sleeping with a knife under the mattress. I honestly thought he'd kill me one day.
"He was really horrible, an obsessive compulsive man who had to be in control all the time—especially in a sexually violent way."
Sue, who suffered years of brutal beatings at the hands of the 5ft 6in, nine-stone Donovan, then recalled the terrifying moment when her worst fears nearly came true.
"A sixth sense woke me up," she said. "We'd gone to bed after a row and I suddenly awoke to find him straddling me and about to smother me with a pillow.
"I fought him off and he backed away, claiming he'd done it in his sleep. I never slept with him again after that. I stayed downstairs with a chair against the door.
"He was addicted to opiates, and when he was high he wanted sex all the time. But when he was off them, he used to have black moods and that's when he'd attack me. Anything would set him off. He used to punch me, kick me and slap me.
"He's broken my cheekbone and bust my nose several times. I always had cut lips and bruised ribs."
Although scrawny, Donovan has immense strength, says Susan.
"Once when the police came round to sort out a fight, he went ballistic," she said. "There were five hefty policemen and it took them all to pin him down.
Berserk
"He had a ferocious temper and it gave him superhuman strength."
Sue then recounted the chilling moment when, starved of drugs, Donovan threatened her with an eight-inch carving knife.
She said: "He knew my grandad had some powerful painkillers he was taking for his cancer so he wanted me to walk the ten miles from Dewsbury to Bradford and back to get them.
"I refused and he went berserk. He grabbed me from behind, slammed me against the wall and thrust the tip of the knife into my throat. I thought I was going to die. He looked me in the eyes and yelled, ‘Just do it girl!'
"So I did and my grandad handed the drugs over because he knew I'd get a beating if he didn't."
Susan first met met Donovan during a hospital visit to her mother in 1990. He was a fantasist who had changed his name from Paul Drake in honour of his TV idol, former Neighbours star and singer Jason Donovan.
The pair moved to Bradford where they married after Susan gave birth to their first daughter Jane in May, 1995.
(We have changed the names of both Donovan's children to protect their identities.)
Then just seven weeks after the birth of second daughter Mary in June, 1997, Susan was forced to flee Donovan for good.
Police had been called to the family home SEVEN times to deal with his violence but Sue always dropped charges.
But if she feared for herself, she was terrified for elder daughter Jane, with whom he had a worrying obsession. Susan felt unable to trust him alone with her. She said: "Something happened to Mick after Jane was born. He got very obsessive with her in an unnatural way.
"He was always interested in changing the girls' nappies. He delighted in it and took ages over it. It used to make my skin crawl.
"I couldn't relax around him or fully trust him with our children.
"There was something not quite right about him.
"As soon as we had the girls he became overpoweringly controlling and demanding.
Worried
"He'd take Jane out from 9am in the morning and not bring her back till 9pm at night. I was sick with worry.
"But he intimidated me so much I was afraid to go out in public with him. And I was shocked when we finally split and he said, ‘You're not taking Jane—but you can keep that thing!'—referring to our Mary."
For the next two years Sue lobbied social services to have Jane removed from Donovan. "I was really worried about her but they didn't seem to take me seriously," she said. Worse was to come. Susan became so depressed by her plight that in late 1998 she was admitted to hospital after a nervous breakdown.
"That's when social services let Mick have Mary, too," she said.
"Now both my daughters were under his control. I was bouncing off the walls with worry that he'd do something."
Finally social services acted in 2000, took both girls from Donovan and, with mum Sue still too depressed to care for them they were placed in a foster home. But their father still had access—until the scandal of the lunch box sex notes.
Sue, who now lives in Cornwall, last saw Jane in 1996 and Mary in 1998. They are being looked after by social services.
Sue told us: "My mental health deteriorated because of Mick. Much to my regret, I was in no fit state to look after the girls as I was in and out of hospital."
Sue's four other children by two other partners all live with their fathers.
She told us: "I can imagine how Shannon's parents are feeling right now because I've been through exactly the same fears.
"I just feel so sorry for Shannon. I wish something had been done about him earlier then maybe this wouldn't have happened.
"I'm so glad she's been found but I feel sick thinking about what he could have done to her.
"I don't believe that poor girl was there of her own free will.
"That man is sick. What would a 39-year-old man want with a nine-year-old girl?
"I just want to tell her family how sorry I am. I feel guilty that I didn't do enough to take this man off the streets earlier.
"I knew that something like this could happen but nobody would listen to me.
"I never want to see that creature Donovan again and I wish I'd never set eyes on him.
"He's the most destructive person I've ever met. The law and social services should have seen this coming long ago." |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 20:39:50
I think it is right that Shannon has not been returned home straight away. Assuming the reports are true, then before she disappeared,
a)Shannon wrote on her bedroom wall that she wanted to live with her dad.
b)was crying at school and told her friend she didn't want to go home.
c)had spent the previous night at her aunts house because she didn't want to be at home.
d)there have been allegations from other members of the family that her stepfather hit her.
Whatever the truth is, Shannon is best kept in a neutral place until the experts can assess what Shannon really wants. If there are issues at home which caused her to run away it would be cruel and counter productive to just take her back.
I don't doubt for one minute that Karen Matthews loves her daughter and wants her home but it's what is best for Shannon that matters. |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 18:11:36
I think they put her under care, so they can find out what exactly happended while it is still fresh. Spokesman did say yesterday on sky the police need to get it right first time and they are bringing all these child experts in to speak with Shannon. Must be very hard for her mother. |
| Garfield |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 17:14:11
I find it vey strange that karen Matthews was only "briefly reunited" with her daughter, and that shannon is being kept in the care of the police. Not sure if that's the way they do things these days or if there is something more sinister afoot.
Oxy only reported about the grandparents home as i was watching the breaking news on BBC. Just goes to show how even the BBC jump to conclusions...a little knowledge is a dangerous thing! |
| justagrannynow |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 15:29:34
I think the lady in the downstairs flat who phoned the police to say she had heard a child in the flat upstairs, where a man lived alone, should get the reward money.
There was a brief reference on the news to the occupant of the flat having been away for a few weeks and I did wonder if he and Shannon had been staying with other relatives, and not in the flat for the whole 3 weeks. There have been several comments about Karen Matthews parents disowning her because of her lifestyle, although they would be unlikely to collude with the relatives of her latest partner. It is so complicated but at least the police and Social Services do seem to be doing the right thing and keeping Shannon in care until they get to the bottom of what happened the day she disappeared. Hopefully, this is the start of somebody actually listening to the child and doing what is best for her. |
| lincs |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 12:02:22
Hope it was not a scam. They will be dishing out all the dirt on the family soon and some of the family selling their side of the story. Could get very messy. |
| mog |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 10:16:27
quote:
Originally posted by oxymoran
The thought did cross my mind Mog! Nice to see I'm not the only skeptik
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No, you are not the only one Oxy!
I never take things at face value. It always pays to have a dig around with things like this. We could be wrong, but i will stand to be corrected at least.
Thats why also, the Mccann episode stinks to high heaven of something so simple that it has probably been overlooked by those investigating it. |
| oxymoran |
Posted - Mar 15 2008 : 05:41:46
The thought did cross my mind Mog! Nice to see I'm not the only skeptik |
| mog |
Posted - Mar 14 2008 : 22:45:38
It has been reported on SKY, that the arrested man is related to shannons step dad, and is also known to police.
Makes you wonder if it was a scam between a few individuals to claim the reward money. |
