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oxymoran
Managing Editor
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 Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 03:22:19
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I think my headline sums up my views on this one.
For pics go to the original at http://oxymoran.blogspot.com/2008/04/sick-austrian-child-abuser-should-be.html
Many unanswered questions in particular relating to who knew what...how could the wife be ignorant?
What type of evil possesses someone to do this over a quarter of century to his own kids and grandkids?
Why Austria...second such case in recent years? See other case at
http://oxymoran.blogspot.com/2008/04/top-10-most-famous-child-abduction.html
Sick Austrian child-abuser should be strung up by his balls
Oxy Moran is speechless. Nothing I can add except to express my disgust and abhorence. And wonder aloud how could this have happened in a small Austrian village? Think what you were doing in 1984, ...that's how long the sick bastard has been raping his own daughter and producing kids. None of the lids has ever been outside and the eldest kid is 19!
"Oxy, what about a fair trial?" you ask. Good point...but while he's awaiting his fair trial, he should be strung up by his balls for at least 24 hours a day. And while he's hanging there in excruciating agony lets hope the police take their time doing a thorough job investigating the full extent of his egregious conduct, and then in turn give his lawyer plenty of time to prepare his defense...or cremation. Can you imagine having to defend that piece of scum? Poor public defender, he has my sympathy.
Seen at left the face of pure evil... Mr F. arguably, the most evil man on earth.
Source Times UK
Austria: woman was 'imprisoned by father for almost 25 years'
(Herbert P.Oczeret)
The house in Amstetten where the woman was allegedly held
Bojan Pancevski and Roger Boyes
Police last night entered the homemade dungeon where a 73-year-old engineer allegedly held his daughter captive for almost a quarter of a century, sexually abusing her and fathering up to seven children.
Behind a hidden door they discovered a complex of small windowless rooms, less than six feet high, where Ms F claims that she was kept imprisoned with three of her children.
Ms F, 42, effectively disappeared in 1984. Since then no passport, driving licence or other official document has been issued in her name. There are no photographs of her since she was at school.
Ms F claims that she was seized, drugged and handcuffed by her father soon after her 19th birthday and locked in the basement of their three-storey home in Amstetten, a small town in eastern Austria. She says she had been sexually abused since the age of 11.
The basement was connected to the house by a hidden door and protected by an elaborate electrical locking mechanism to which only Mr F knew the code. Because he had been an electrical engineer and had access to explosives, police feared booby traps, but they gained entry last night after Mr F, in custody, disclosed the code.
The rooms that they encountered contained sanitary facilities and cooking equipment, and one was described as a padded cell.
The Austrian state prosecutor’s office said that Ms F’s claims were credible and that DNA tests were being conducted to see whether Mr F was indeed the father of her children.
“She had been abused continuously during the 24-year imprisonment,” said a police statement, summarising the testimony of Ms F. “This led to six children.”
Police said she was “greatly disturbed” and agreed to talk only after receiving assurances that her children would be cared for and that she would no longer have to see her father.
A seventh child was born but died three days later. The body of the baby was later allegedly burnt in the garden by her father. The surviving children, three boys and three girls, are aged between 5 and 20 and all are being cared for by police psychologists.
Police found out about, and freed, Ms F after one of her daughters, Child, 19, was taken to hospital eight days ago. She was one of three children living in the dungeon.
All three were fed and clothed by Mr F but they were not allowed to go to school. According to her testimony, Ms F had to teach all three – the others were Child, 5, and Child, 18 – to speak, read and write. Her father passed clothing and food through a hatch.
Between 1993 and 2000, Mr F allegedly maintained an elaborate pretence. On three occasions he claimed that the children of his missing daughter had been mysteriously dumped on him and that she had then disappeared. The three accounted for in this way were formally adopted and allowed to attend school. “Their behaviour was good and their marks were too,” a school spokesman said.
The other three, however, were more difficult to explain away – and were condemned to the dungeon.
The case has echoes of the Natascha Kampusch affair in which a Viennese schoolgirl was kept in a cellar from the age of 10 for eight years before escaping.
The case is also likely to fuel a furious debate in Austria about how easy it is to slip through the welfare net. “This is one of the most extraordinary cases in Austrian criminal history,” Colonel Franz Polzer, a police spokesman, said.
But while Ms Kampusch’s captivity was possible because of the anonymity of the suburbs, Ms F and her children were prisoners in a small, close-knit community. Neighbours talked yesterday of how Mr F’s wife used to take her three grandchildren for walks and how Mr F always gave a cheery greeting. “This is terrible,” said a neighbour.
Mr F and his wife, who is said to have been ignorant about the makeshift prison and the years of sexual abuse, called a doctor when Child, 19, fell unconscious in front of their door. Since then she has been in a coma.
When the police called on the household in search of Ms F, Mr F presented a letter supposedly written by his daughter, suggesting that she had left to live with an isolated sect.
Mr F and his daughter were seen in the grounds of the hospital where Child, 19, is being treated. That rare concession by Mr F to his daughter appears to have been his undoing.
There was an eerie silence in this sleepy town yesterday as its 23,000 inhabitants learnt from the television news of the horrors said to have been perpetrated in their midst for almost three decades.
The only sign of life was at Ybbs Street, where a legion of international television crews and news organisations besieged an inconspicuous blue three-storey house, the home of Mr and Mrs F, a retired middle-class couple well known and well respected in the tight-knit community.
As a police spokesman held an impromptu press conference in front of the house, neighbours listened with disbelief to the allegations of how Mr F, a retired electrical engineer, kept his daughter imprisoned in a subterranean dungeon. He adopted three of the children he is alleged to have fathered with her, and they went to school and had a normal life in the apartment upstairs. The other three were allegedly imprisoned two storeys below and, until this weekend, had never seen daylight.
Their window on the outside world was a television set that police said was the only concession Mr F made for his secret family.
“This is a shock to all of us,” a neighbour who gave her name only as Maria, 66, said. “I’m good friends with Mrs F. Both she and her husband are lovely people. I’ve seen her take the children to school very often – they are well dressed, polite and very nice. I just saw her the other day and I still cannot believe that this was going on in front of our noses. We always believed that the mother of the children had run away and dumped them on the grandparents. Who would ever think of such a horrible thing?”
But surely someone had questioned the whereabouts of a woman who had gone missing since 1984 and had three children growing up with her parents?
“There are no records of Ms F. She has not had any dealings with the authorities since her disappearance in 1984 and there are no photos or files on her,” a police spokesman said.
The neighbour, Maria, despite claiming to be a friend of the family, admitted that she could not remember ever learning their first names, although she had known them for decades.
Mr F worked as an engineer for the construction company Zehnter. As well as Ms F he had four children, all of whom now have families of their own.
The police said that the dungeon in Mr F’s house was taboo for the rest of the family, including his wife, who claimed to have known nothing about her daughter’s fate.
Mr F is said by police to have presided over all family affairs with an iron hand. But how he managed to keep a secret so horrifying behind an underground door will puzzle psychiatrists and sociologists for years as they decide whether there is such a thing as an “Austrian syndrome”.
Dark world of child hostages
— Natascha Kampusch was held for eight years by Wolfgang Priklopil before escaping. Priklopil snatched Natascha, aged 10, as she walked to school and kept her in a dungeon under his house near Vienna
— Three Austrian girls were imprisoned by their mother in a house in a suburb of Linz for seven years. They were kept in almost complete darkness, playing only with mice and communicating in their own language. They were rescued in 2005 when police broke into the house after a neighbour, who had reported his suspicions several times, threatened a local council official with a lawsuit
— In 1996 Sabine Dardenne, 12, was abducted by the Belgian paedophile Marc Dutroux. She was confined to a cellar and abused until her rescue 80 days later
— June Candelario locked her grandson in a portable kennel for 11 hours a day while she went to work. It was three years before authorities in Colorado found out. Candelario was convicted on child abuse charges last year
Source: Times archive
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mog
Seasoned Reporter
United Kingdom
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 09:28:15
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Oxy, I was going to post this story yesterday also. I followed it on various news channels yesterday, and i am with you on this one.
Apparently, the cellar was so deep below the building, the authorities said that shouts and screams would not have been heard at all.
According to the late news last night, he had actually admitted to the crimes.
One local lady who was interviewed said something along the lines of, "He wasnt like the other people round here, into small talk, he was polite (a gentleman (sic))."
Well, they normally are.
Pure evil.
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justagrannynow
Senior Correspondent
France
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 10:29:49
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Am I the only one who is getting thoroughly depressed with all these reports of abuse to children ?
I was coping with the McCanns. Indeed, the pursuit of Kate and Gerry had become like a game.Then we had the unpleasant Matthews family and their willingness to use a small child for monetary gain along with the terrible goings on in Jersey but this horror in Austria is the final straw for me. No way can I get anywhere close to understanding the pain and fear which has been inflicted for so long.
It's too awful for words and I feel so helpless and dreadful.
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mog
Seasoned Reporter
United Kingdom
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Posted - Apr 29 2008 : 11:08:36
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Originally posted by justagrannynow
Am I the only one who is getting thoroughly depressed with all these reports of abuse to children ?
I was coping with the McCanns. Indeed, the pursuit of Kate and Gerry had become like a game.Then we had the unpleasant Matthews family and their willingness to use a small child for monetary gain along with the terrible goings on in Jersey but this horror in Austria is the final straw for me. No way can I get anywhere close to understanding the pain and fear which has been inflicted for so long.
It's too awful for words and I feel so helpless and dreadful.
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I dont think you will be the only one feeling this way JAGN. I feel that way too. Everytime you switch the television on, the news is reporting doom and gloom, murders, abuse, dodgy governments etc. It makes you want to pull your hair out at times.
Thats one of the reasons i stopped buying newspapers. I was fed up with all the nasty stuff reported, that seeing it day in day out started to scramble my brain!
Its no better if you watch local news now either. What happened to all the daft reports about dogs been able to play snooker, or parrots been able to sing?
Indeed it does seem that the world, at the moment, is going down the pan.
Anyway, on that happy note, dont have nightmares please! |
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lincs
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - May 06 2008 : 20:56:20
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| I cant get my head round this story, it is unbelievable what punishment he gets is not ever going to be enough. Torture the .astard every day of his life. |
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mog
Seasoned Reporter
United Kingdom
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Posted - May 07 2008 : 09:34:30
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Originally posted by lincs
I cant get my head round this story, it is unbelievable what punishment he gets is not ever going to be enough. Torture the .astard every day of his life.
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He may even like it, judging by the world he has inhabited for the past years. |
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String Him Up by his balls